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Veep Debate–Second Impressions

Could it be that there is hope for the Republic?

Yesterday I suggested that what people thought of the foreign policy part of the debate would depend a great deal on whether they had the facts to detect Cheney's artfully delivered deadpan mendacity. Today the media — both blogs and traditional sources — went into high fact-check mode. Summaries at Needlenose and White House Briefing.

Cheney's best zinger was the he went to the Senate to preside over it most every Tuesday and yet he'd never met Edwards before the debate. Both parts are a lie: Cheney's Senate presiding record is rather limited, and Cheney is on archival TV footage sitting next to Edwards at a dinner three years ago. (The Democrats put out a nice video about it.) And the part about Edwards's hometown paper was not real accurate either…

I think the major print and network media willingness to fact-check all of a sudden (where have they been for the past three years?) is largely due to pressure via blogs, which has served as a counter-weight to the right-wing domination of cable TV and AM radio, those modern yahoos who treat questioning the Maximum Leader as a form of treason. Now we have sane people noting that letting the Leader and Assistant Leader (however we sort the roles) lie with impunity is itself perhaps not the essence of patriotism.

Brad DeLong thinks that Cheney lying about the small stuff is major:

I believe that Cheney's loss to Edwards will, by this weekend, be seen as even greater in magnitude than Bush's loss to Kerry last Thursday. This is just too good a story not to dominate public memory.

In the future, when people talk about most devastating moments in vice presidential debates, they will not talk about Lloyd Bentsen's riposte to Dan Quayle's claim to be the second coming of JFK; they will talk about Dick Cheney's forgetting that he had ever seen John Edwards before.

In other words, the conventional wisdom is hardening that Cheney has committed a gaffe—one of those silly small things that the press pounces on and turns into a mountain when it (1) thinks the small thing is sympathetic magic for a big important thing (2) that the press believes to be true, but (3) doesn't have the guts to say directly.

Trial by gaffe is a nutty way to pick the government of the world's greatest superpower. But it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Update: Digby points to Just My 2 where you will find some very high-ranking Republicans who have gone on record in the strongest and most definite terms that even minor mis-statements in a Presidential debate (even something as small as where and when you were with a public official) indicate something profound and troubling about a candidate.

Posted in Politics: US: 2004 Election | 2 Comments

Bush Team Flip-Flops on Support for Torture

This is a good flip-flop: The President's Stance on Torture is now that he's against it. Nice to see that public outrage can still achieve something.

Heartbreaking that it takes massive public outrage just to keep the (official) anti-torture status quo.

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Today’s Tinfoil Hat Link

Why did GW Bush skip his annual physical this year?

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Veep Debate–First Impressions

Cheney would be one of the most effective TV presences — because of, not despite, his lies — were it not for his irrepressible mean streak. Whether people think he won or lost may well turn on their response to the meanness factor. TV does not like mean.

If you insist on substance, Cheney did almost as good a job as could be done to make the administration look good on foreign policy. Edwards as much as said, 'who you gonna believe: this guy or your eyes?' It's a good argument, but there were others he could have used too. If you were not aware of the facts Cheney was distorting, you might well have thought he won the foreign affairs part, although not by much; if you knew the subtext, then Edwards won on foreign affairs, but didn't do so as effectively as he might have. I think Edwards's stock may rise if people fact check the debate thoroughly, as I think Edwards missed openings to nail Cheney mis-statements.

Conversely, Edwards simply crucified Cheney on domestic issues. Wasn't even close.

Update (10/6): A quickie CBS poll “of 178 uncommitted voters found that 41 percent said Edwards won the debate, versus 28 percent who said Cheney won. Thirty-one percent said it was a tie.” One more time and it's over…..

Posted in Politics: US: 2004 Election | 11 Comments

Nice Work if You Can Get It

Via the would be funny if it didn't hurt The Poor Man: It's Hard Work!, we learn about GW Bush work ethic. [Warning: contains rudeness.]

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Bruce Schneier Has A Blog

Bruce Scheneier, author of “Applied Cryptography” and other wonderful books, has a blog called Schneier on Security. I'm sure it will be very good.

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