Other people will no doubt have a plethora of reactions to this rather heated debate over the Patriot Act between U.Chicago law professor Geoffrey Stone and Professor-Judge Richard Posner. I’m afraid that my initial reaction was that I think I’d really like Chicago (a law school which I’ve only ever visited once, and then only too briefly to get a feel for the place).
A Personal Blog
by Michael Froomkin
Laurie Silvers & Mitchell Rubenstein Distinguished Professor of Law
University of Miami School of Law
My Publications | e-mail
All opinions on this blog are those of the author(s) and not their employer(s) unelss otherwise specified.
Who Reads Discourse.net?
Readers describe themselves.
Please join in.Reader Map
Recent Bluessky Posts- We are not saying we don't know. Many brave people on the ground are bearing witness and putting bodies on the line. From far away we applaud them. And organize for the midterms, I guess... January 19, 2026 Michael Froomkin
- No one takes any official action in response to this criminal assault? Law has collapsed, at least for now. January 19, 2026 Michael Froomkin
- Literally first 3 items on my feed today: 1. Trump wants to invade Greenland because Norwegians (sic) won't give him the Peace Prize; 2. Trump plans to send soldiers, national guard, FBI to MN; 3. Trump invites Russia & Belarus to join Gaza management committee. Happy MLK Day. January 19, 2026 Michael Froomkin
- Jotwell Conlaw: Lorianne Updike Schulzke, Adding Color to the Founding, JOTWELL (January 19, 2026) (reviewing James G. Basker & Nicole Seary, eds., Black Writers of the Founding Era: A Library of America Anthology (2023)), conlaw.jotwell.com/adding-color.... January 19, 2026 Jotwell
- There ought to be 500 members of the House ready to vote impeachment for this threat to invade a treaty ally and start a world war out of personal pique. There are not even three Republicans ready to save the world. Now what? www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026... January 19, 2026 Michael Froomkin
Recent Comments
- Michael on Robot Law II is Now Available! (In Hardback)
- Mulalira Faisal Umar on Robot Law II is Now Available! (In Hardback)
- Michael on Vince Lago Campaign Has No Shame
- Just me on Vince Lago Campaign Has No Shame
- Jennifer Cummings on Are Coral Gables Police Cooperating with ICE?
Subscribe to Blog via Email
Join 51 other subscribers
Indeed, interesting debate, including the “heat” in it. Unlike other cases of online exchange regarding highly sensitive legal issues, at the end of this one I have the impression that, while keeping up the interest by throwing around some truly poisonous darts (at the end, to say that Judge Posner advocated for “selling babies” is, in my opinion, pushing it a bit too much; the moderation of his response is, on the other hand, a touch of great class), both parties have gone into a lot of technical detail – more than average, considering the context.
Example of the contrary, in the field of economics, where a member of the academia goes way over the top and, in doing so, kills the debate (note that this “open letter” was first read live, in the addressee’s face -a nobel prize, no less-, in front of several hundred colleagues of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank): http://www.imf.org/external/np/vc/2002/070202.htm