I firmly believe that a full and open investigation of all results in Ohio should occur. (I personally think it unlikely that there was any state-wide conspiracy to steal votes, although there were probably localized instances of misconduct, generally to the benefit of the party controlling election monitoring, as is the case in most elections -- but I am certainly willing to change my mind on this issue if adequate evidence is presented.)
But the affidavit of Dr. Phillips is very far from offering any significant evidence whatsoever on the subject; indeed, it is the kind of amateurish product that makes it easy to tar those who want an investigation as kooks and crackpots. Leaving aside the issue of Dr Phillips' qualifications and focusing only on the substantive claims: [3] claims that the voter turnout in various counties is "inexplicably low"; yet there is no a priori reason to expect a uniform distribution of turnout. An analysis of standard deviation of turnout by county in previous elections, or in other states, would be a good start; from there one could move on to a detailed analysis of variance taking into account population density and other relevant factors, in order to see whether these Cleveland precincts were actually all that anomalous. None of this is done here. [4] is a real point, although methodologically very poorly done; why not use a standard correlation analysis to try to get a better picture of the relation between the inequities in voting machine distribution and other variables? But in any case unequal distribution of voting machines almost certainly does not provide legal grounds for overturning an election result. [5] again provides no point of comparison: what is the expected level of swings/divergences in registration over time and in different areas? There's no real way to know whether this is anomalous without a lot of statistical work. (And is there really no 2000 data)? [6] is just silly: in any large quasi-random sample, some data will hit "nice" numbers like 16 000; in itself, this isn't "compelling evidence" of anything. [7] is again badly designed and, even if it holds up, provides only one correlation that could be explained by any number of factors. As for [8] and [9], was any attempt even made to contact the relevant offices to ask about the uncounted ballots? Are they just spoiled ballots? If so, what level of spoilage is normal?
Dr Phillips claims to be "well versed in standard techniques of statistical analysis"; yet the affidavit employs none of them; nor does it employ the kind of methodological care, caution about seemingly "striking" results, and sensitivity to possible confounding variables one would expect of any scientist doing any sort of experiment. Indeed, it seems to employ very little except addition and multiplication in the service of a very selective presentation of a small number of data points with no useful context. Those who are serious about getting to the bottom of the election results in Ohio should realize that this sort of slipshod work can only hurt their cause.
Posted by: Evelyn Blaine at December 14, 2004 08:19 AM[3] claims that the voter turnout in various counties is "inexplicably low"; yet there is no a priori reason to expect a uniform distribution of turnout.
a uniform distribution of turnout would predict that some counties would have higher turnout and some lower. However, considering that Ohio was known (1) to be significant battleground state that (2) could swing either way, county-level turnout well below the national norm (7%-28% vs. 60%(?)) seems mighty suspicious.
[6] is just silly: in any large quasi-random sample, some data will hit "nice" numbers like 16 000; in itself, this isn't "compelling evidence" of anything.
[6] was a paragraph and yet you highlight one number from it that 'in itself' isn't evidence of anything.
The "Voter turnout was reported at 98.55% and 94.27% in two precincts in Concord, numbers nearly impossible to achieve." is much more compelling as evidence of possible fraud.
[7] is again badly designed and, even if it holds up, provides only one correlation that could be explained by any number of factors.
take a look at This for a fuller explanation of his reasoning. His reasoning seem legit enough to verify the toledo vote with an independent recount.
Those who are serious about getting to the bottom of the election results in Ohio should realize that this sort of slipshod work can only hurt their cause.
I dunno, I think we need to throw up what we can and see what sticks. If everything alleged in the affidavit sticks, Kerry would have won with a margin of over 30 thousand votes if I tallied the professor's numbers correctly.
Sure, the Toledo vote should be subjected to an independent recount. But going from that to "[i]t is my professional opinion [!] that the election in Lucas County was rigged" is ridiculous. On the question of voter turnout, I have no idea what maximal turnout levels for blocks of 400-1000 geographically contiguous voters are. Intuitively it seems quite plausible, in an election with overall regional turnout of 70% (that's the statistic for Cleveland as a whole), that some groups of that size could reach 90%+, through the combined effects of simple chance and historically persistent disparities in turnout (probably correlated in large part to economic and demographic factors.) There are lots of ways I might try to back this thesis up or falsify it: one of the most obvious starting places, for instance, would be to find the standard deviation of turnout by ward relative to precinct turnout (or state turnout, etc.) over a variety of sample sets (Cleveland 2004, Cleveland in the past 2 or 4 or 10 elections, all of Ohio for similar timescales, all of the US, all major cities ... ) I could also figure out correlations between turnout variance and a whole slew of relevant variables. At this point, we would have a lot of data to look at and could at least begin posing some interesting questions. But not only does Dr Phillips not do that, it never even seems to have occurred to him that it could or should be done.
"Throw[ing] up what we can and see[ing] what sticks" just means descending to a Rovian level. Those of us who went into the election proclaiming our allegiance to the "reality-based community" have a responsibility to do better; I'd like to think that that phrase is not just an anti-Bush slogan but represents a real intellectual value, which we're not going to compromise simply because it might lead us to conclusions we don't like.
Posted by: Evelyn Blaine at December 14, 2004 09:43 PM[3] claims that the voter turnout in various counties is "inexplicably low"; yet there is no a priori reason to expect a uniform distribution of turnout.
there is, however, an excellent reason to expect high turnout in those precincts that the democrats would have targeted for turnout efforts with the expectation of a large Kerry margin.
Your overall objection seems to be that Phillips did not complete a study that would take an independent researcher at least 18 months to 2 years worth of data collection in slightly over one month. Phillips provided the groundwork upon which a legal case could be built that would make it possible for a team of researchers to demand information from county officials in a very short period of time under a court order.
You haven't proven your case----where is the data that says that what Phillips is claiming did not happen? Why don't you prove that the APPARENT pattern of discrimination and vote suppression has a "reasonable" explanation.
You can start by explaining why the Secretary of State, who took office in 1998, suddenly decided in September 2004 to enforce a law that was on the books for ages which required that all voter registration forms be submitted on post card stock----and ordered ONLY that those people who registered using non-post card stock paper in 2004 be removed from the voter rolls, rather than require that everyone who had ever registered without using the correct thickness of paper be removed....
Posted by: paul lukasiak at December 14, 2004 10:16 PMAs I stated earlier, I firmly believe that a full investigation into the Ohio results should be conducted. My objection to Dr Phillips' analysis is not that his observations are, at best, crude, unsystematic, and preliminary; all science starts from crude, unsystematic, and preliminary observations which are then progressively refined. My objection is that he presents these observations as though they led inexorably to one and only one possible conclusion. The best that can be said for this is that, if it isn't simply intellectual dishonesty or self-delusion, it evinces shockingly poor understanding of the way research should be done.
Among a lot of people, there seems to be a great misunderstanding about what statistical analysis can and cannot demonstrate with respect to the election results. Statistical analysis, however refined, is not magic; it will not prove or disprove the existence of voter fraud. The most that it can possibly tell us is that, for some set(s) of data, some result(s) differ from what would be expected on the basis of a predictive model by a greater amount than can be accounted for by chance. (Obviously, how interesting this result is will depend on how strong and refined the model is: it might be based on a simple synchronic or diachronic superset of the data in question, or it might take into account a very large number of independent variables.) Once we have a result like relative to a suitably strong model, we can look at those data points and try to investigate causes for the divergence. One of those causes, to be sure, might be fraud. But we are still very far away even from that result. And sacrificing our skepticism and our willingness to think critically will not bring us any closer.
Posted by: Evelyn Blaine at December 15, 2004 12:05 AM"Throw[ing] up what we can and see[ing] what sticks" just means descending to a Rovian level. Those of us who went into the election proclaiming our allegiance to the "reality-based community" have a responsibility to do better; I'd like to think that that phrase is not just an anti-Bush slogan but represents a real intellectual value, which we're not going to compromise simply because it might lead us to conclusions we don't like.
Horsepuckey.
it's an acknowledgement of the reality that not everything may pan out...doesn't mean it shouldn't be checked out, as the flimsiest of evidence might actually be all that's visible of very real/widespread vote fraud.
If vote fraud was indeed perpetuated in Ohio, it is unlikely it was actually limited to JUST Ohio...
Posted by: Patrick (G) at December 15, 2004 02:42 PM