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<title>The Hearing You Are Not Hearing About</title>
<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a title="The American Street » Blog Archive » Your Vote: Worthless in the Eyes of Media" href="http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2005/03/21/your-vote-worthless-in-the-eyes-of-media/">&#8220;There&#8217;s reason to suspect that our 2004 election was stolen.&#8221;</a></p></blockquote>

<p>A House Administration Committee field hearing will be held today in Columbus, Ohio to look into the allegation that <a href="http://makethemaccountable.com/articles/Ohio_s_Odd_Numbers.htm">there is something odd about Ohio&#8217;s numbers</a>.   Although whether a Republican-chaired committee will give the matter a fair hearing, which would require breaking through the obstructionist tactics of a very partisan Republican Ohio Secretary of State, remains a question mark.  </p>

<p>And the vote process in Ohio needs a real investigation.</p>]]>
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<title>Delay, Delay, Don&apos;t (re)Count the Votes</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way to understand this sort of tactic as anything other than an attempt to prevent an honest recount:  <a title="Guardian Unlimited | World Latest | Ohio Official Refuses Interview Over Vote" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4696816,00.html">Ohio Official Refuses Interview Over Vote</a>?  (Note that the headline is British understatement &#8212; in fact the Ohio Secretary of State is apparently trying to get a court order to block having to explain the weird things he&#8217;s done to lock out recounters, prevent observers from actually observing, and other very suspicious hijinks.)  </p>

<p><b>Update</b>: The Kerry-Edwards team <a href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122804V.shtml">have intervened in the case to preserve the evidence</a></p>]]>
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<title>Much Smoke In Ohio.  But Is There A Fire?</title>
<description><![CDATA[Much to-ing and fro-ing in Ohio:<ul><li><a href="http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2004/12/ohio-supreme-court-asked-for-last.php">The Ohio Supreme Court was asked to step in</a></li><li>The state's electors, however, <a href="http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/breaking_news//10406914.htm">have already voted</a></li></ul>The <a href="http://www.cosmiciguana.com/">Cosmic Iguana</a> has been finding links about Ohio:  <ul><li>Once again, <a href="http://opednews.com/wade_121204_election_smoking_gun.htm">a Republican stepped in to prevent ballots from being counted.</a></li><li><a title="Ohio Recount Affidavit - Richard Hayes Phillips" href="http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/">Ohio Recount Affidavit - Richard Hayes Phillips</a> is an affidavit (by a <i>hydrologist</i> who claims statistical expertise) suggesting a pattern of vote fraud in Ohio.  Whether it would be enough to alter the result is unclear, but if true it would get close.  (As the site is hard to reach, I've quoted it in full below).</li></ul>
But I suspect nothing will come if it all.  If this election was stolen -- and I'm not at all sure about that -- it's staying stolen.<br /><br />]]>
    <![CDATA[OHIO RECOUNT
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AFFIDAVIT<br />
December 10, 2004<br />
From: http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/supreme.htm<br />
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I, RICHARD HAYES PHILLIPS, do swear and affirm the following:
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1. I hold a Ph.D. in geomorphology from the University of Oregon. I am a professional hydrologist and am well versed in standard techniques of statistical analysis, with special expertise in spotting anomalous data. A copy of my curriculum vita is attached to this Affidavit as Exhibit A.
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2. I have analyzed unofficial precinct level results from the November 2, 2004 general election in nine Ohio counties, including Cuyahoga, Franklin, Warren, Butler, Clermont, Miami, Montgomery, Hamilton, and Lucas. In have compared these results with those from the November 7, 2000 general election where such data is available. I have examined the unofficial and official results for the November 2, 2004 election, county by county. I have examined, in Franklin County, data on the number of voting machines deployed in each precinct. I have also examined United States census data for 2000 and 2003.
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3. There are numerous examples of incorrect presidential vote tallies in certain precincts in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County. These irregularities include at least 16 precincts where votes intended to be cast for Kerry were shifted to other candidates’ columns, and at least 30 precincts with inexplicably low voter turnout, including 7.10%, 13.05%, 19.60%, 21.01%, 21.80%, 24.72%, 28.83%, 28.97%, and 29.25%, and seven entire wards where voter turnout was reportedly below 50%, even as low as 39.35%. Kerry won Cleveland with 83.27% of the vote to 15.88% for Bush. If voter turnout was really 60% of registered voters, as seems likely based upon turnout in other major cities of Ohio, rather than 49.89% as reported, Kerry’s margin of victory in Cleveland has been wrongly reduced by 22,000 votes.
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4. The systematic withholding of voting machines from predominantly Democratic wards in Columbus, many of them with high black populations, severely restricted voter turnout in these wards and cost John Kerry 17,000 votes. I have meticulously compared election results with the number of registered voters per voting machine for each precinct in Columbus, and for each ward in Franklin County. In Columbus, the median Bush precinct had a 60.56% turnout, while the median Kerry precinct had only a 50.78% turnout. County wide, the 73 wards with fewer than 300 registered voters per machine had a 62.33% turnout; 58 were in the suburbs, and 54 were won by Bush. The 73 wards with 300 or more registered voters per machine had a 51.99% turnout; 59 were in Columbus, and 58 were won by Kerry. In addition, there were 68 machines not provided to anyone, according to data provided by the Board of Elections.
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5. It has been widely reported that in Warren County, the administrative building was locked down on election night and no independent persons were allowed to observe the vote count. Based upon the official Board of Elections reports, there has been a 15.51% increase in voter registration in eight months time, and voter turnout was reportedly above 80% in 55 precincts. Since the 2000 election, voter registration was reportedly up by 79.0%, 38.3%, 32.4%, 31.0%, 29.7%, and 28.4% in six townships that provided 68.75% of Bush’s margin of victory in Warren County. While the county population has increased by 14.75% since the 2000 census, 87 of 157 precincts had shown declines in voter registration at other times since the 2000 election, and yet every single precinct, 157 of 157, showed increases in voter registration since March 2, 2004. In Butler County, there are nine precincts and two entire townships where Kerry received fewer votes than Gore despite a sharp increase in voter turnout; and there are precincts with reported increases in voter registration, since November 7, 2000, of 177.9%, 143.5%, 69.3%, 65.5%, 64.5%, 48.2%, 43.3%, 38.8%, 36.9%, 34.3%, 34.0%, and 33.8%, compared to an increase in population of only 3.12% county wide. In Clermont County, where the population has grown by 4.39% since the 2000 census, voter registration was reportedly up by 85.4% and 67.6% in two precincts, and down by 49.4% in another precinct, all in the same township; there were 23 precincts where turnout was up, but Kerry got fewer votes than Gore. All these data are indications that votes may have been shifted from Kerry to Bush. According to the official results certified by the Ohio Secretary of State, these three counties combined provided Bush with a plurality of 132,685 votes, which is 13,910 votes more than his statewide plurality of 118,775 votes. Given that George Bush carried these counties by 95,575 votes in 2000, the net loss for John Kerry could be as high as 37,000 votes.
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6. It is my professional opinion that there is compelling evidence of fraud in Miami County. Early on election night, when 31,620 votes had been counted, and later, when 50,235 votes had been counted, John Kerry had exactly the same percentage, 33.92%, and the percentage for George Bush was almost exactly the same, dropping by 0.03%, from 65.80% to 65.77%. The second set of returns gave Bush a margin of exactly 16,000 votes, giving cause to question the integrity of the central counting device for the optical scanning machines. Compared to 2000, voter turnout increased by 20.86%, while the population increased by only 1.38%. Voter turnout was reported at 98.55% and 94.27% in two precincts in Concord, numbers nearly impossible to achieve. Voter turnout was reported to have increased by 194.58% and 152.78% in two precincts in Troy compared to the 2000 election, and by more than 30.0% in ten other precincts. There are no data for voter registration in 2000, so the ballots cast offer the only meaningful comparison. Comparing the results of the 2004 election to the results of the 2000 election, there is one precinct where the reduction in turnout exactly matched the reduction in votes counted for the Democratic presidential candidate. It is my professional opinion that these numbers are fraudulent, in that the true election results have been altered. Given that Bush officially carried Miami County in 2004 by 16,394 votes, and that Bush carried Miami County in 2000 by 10,453 votes, the net loss to John Kerry could be as high as 6,000 votes.
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7. In Toledo, Lucas County, there were 50 precincts with less than 60% reported turnout. All of them were won overwhelmingly by John Kerry, by a margin of better than 5 to 1 in the aggregate. There were 45 precincts with more than 80% reported turnout; 12 were won by Bush, 33 were won by Kerry, and most were competitive. When the precinct numbers are combined into totals for each ward, data not provided by the Board of Elections, a clear and unmistakable pattern emerges. The 14 wards with the highest reported turnout were won by John Kerry by a margin of 11 to 7 in the aggregate. The 10 wards with the lowest reported turnout were won by John Kerry by a margin of 6 to 1 in the aggregate. It is my professional opinion that the election in Lucas County was rigged, most likely by altering the vote totals in each ward by a percentage chosen for that ward, plus or minus, based upon voting patterns in past elections. If turnout in Toledo had been as high as that reported elsewhere in the county, John Kerry’s plurality would have been 7,000 votes larger.
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8. There are still 92,672 uncounted votes in Ohio, exclusive of any uncounted provisional ballots. According to unofficial results provided by the Ohio Secretary of State, there were 5,574,476 ballots cast, and 5,481,804 votes counted, which leaves 92,672 regular ballots (1.66%) still uncounted. The official results, now certified, do not include these ballots, but differ from the unofficial results only in the addition of provisional ballots and some absentee ballots to the tally. In Montgomery and Hamilton counties, these uncounted votes come disproportionately from precincts that voted overwhelmingly for John Kerry. In Montgomery County there are 47 precincts, all of them in Dayton, where the percentage of uncounted ballots is 4% or more. Kerry won all 47 of these precincts, by a margin of 7 to 1 in the aggregate. County wide in Montgomery County, the percentage of uncounted ballots was 1.70%. In Hamilton County there are 26 precincts, 22 of them in Cincinnati, where the percentage of uncounted ballots is 8% or more. Kerry won all 26 of these precincts, by a margin of 10 to 1 in the aggregate. Altogether there are 86 precincts in Cincinnati where the percentage of uncounted ballots is 4% or more. Kerry won 85 of these precincts, by a margin of 5 to 1 in the aggregate. County wide in Hamilton County, the percentage of uncounted ballots was 2.34%. Although I have not yet had time to examine similar data for Cleveland, Columbus, Toledo, Akron, Youngstown, Canton, or elsewhere, it is possible that the same pattern will emerge in these cities as well. If these 92,672 uncounted votes were cast for Kerry by a 5 to 1 margin, this would reduce the statewide margin between the candidates by another 61,781 votes.
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9. There are still provisional ballots uncounted in Ohio. On election night the Ohio Secretary of State reported that 5,481,804 ballots had been counted, and 155,428 provisional ballots had been issued. According to the official results, now certified, 5,625,621 votes have now been counted, an increase of 143,817, which represents the number of newly counted ballots. Some of these were absentee ballots. The reported count of provisional ballots was 79,482 for Kerry, and 61,505 for Bush. This would leave 14,441 provisional ballots uncounted.
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10. In summary, it is my professional opinion that John Kerry’s margins of victory were wrongly reduced by 22,000 votes in Cleveland, by 17,000 votes in Columbus, and by as many as 7,000 votes in Toledo. It is my further professional opinion that John Kerry’s margins of defeat in Warren, Butler, and Clermont counties were inflated by as many as 37,000 votes in the aggregate, and in Miami County by as many as 6,000 votes. There are still 92,672 uncounted regular ballots that, based upon the analysis set forth above of the election results from Dayton and Cincinnati, may be expected to break for John Kerry by an overwhelming margin. And there are 14,441 uncounted provisional ballots.
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11. My research into the topics discussed in this affidavit is continuing, and I reserve the right to modify my conclusions as new information becomes available.
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TO THIS I SWEAR AND AFFIRM,
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<br /><br />
Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.<br />]]></description>
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<title>Wayne Madsen Is At It Again (&apos;Vote Switching&quot; Software???)</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I still think <a href="http://www.discourse.net/archives/2004/07/california_dreams_not_pretty_ones.html">Wayne Madsen is not a nut</a>, and that&#8217;s why I have to give some credence to this well researched, and highly suggestive albeit not dispositive piece of reporting: <a title="Texas to Florida: White House-linked clandestine operation paid for "vote switching" software" href="http://onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/120604Madsen/120604madsen.html">Texas to Florida: White House-linked clandestine operation paid for &#8220;vote switching&#8221; software</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p>An exhaustive investigation has turned up a link between current Florida Republican Representative Tom Feeney, a customized Windows-based program to suppress Democratic votes on touch screen voting machines, a Florida computer services company with whom Feeney worked as a general counsel and registered lobbyist while he was Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, and top level officials of the Bush administration.</p>

<p>According to a notarized affidavit signed by Clint Curtis, while he was employed by the <span class="caps">NASA</span> Kennedy Space Center contractor, Yang Enterprises, Inc., during 2000, Feeney solicited him to write a program to &#8220;control the vote.&#8221; At the time, Curtis was of the opinion that the program was to be used for preventing fraud in the in the 2002 election in Palm Beach County, Florida. His mind was changed, however, when the true intentions of Feeney became clear: the computer program was going to be used to suppress the Democratic vote in counties with large Democratic registrations.</p>

<p>According to Curtis, Feeney and other top brass at Yang Enterprises, a company located in a three-story building in Oviedo, Florida, wanted the prototype written in Visual Basic 5 (VB.5) in Microsoft Windows and the end-product designed to be portable across different Unix-based vote tabulation systems and to be &#8220;undetectable&#8221; to voters and election supervisors.</p></blockquote>

<p>I just hope he&#8217;s wrong &#8212; and I worry that the same hope may cause other people to dismiss this one out of hand rather then trying to find out where the facts lead.</p>]]>
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<title>New Rumors Swirl Around Ohio Vote Count</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea what to make of this.</p>

<p>Allegedly, <a title="B E L L A C I A O - Kerry Supports Ohio Vote Investigation, Jackson says " a href="http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/944">a down-ticket Democrat polled  257,000 more votes than Kerry</a> in Ohio.  If true &#8212; and the web site offers some county-by-county vote figures &#8212; that&#8217;s very odd, as barring the most unusual circumstances the top of the ticket polls well ahead of candidates with very limited advertising budgets.  (spotted via <a href="http://www.cosmiciguana.com/archives/003215.html">Cosmic Iguana</a>)</p>

<p>Bush is currently believed to have carried Ohio by circa 130,000 votes, although exit polls showed a narrow Kerry win.   Were Kerry to have won Ohio he would have won the electoral collage although not, on current counts, the popular vote.</p>

<p>The Ohio vote count has had its oddities, notably the <a href="http://www.cosmiciguana.com/archives/003210.html">apparently false claim</a> that the count in Warren County had to be held behind closed doors without the usual observers due to an <span class="caps">FBI </span>terror warning that &#8230; didn&#8217;t exist.  It would be enough to make you suspect some hanky-panky were we not all in the grips of &#8230; of what exactly?</p>]]>
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<title>Slashdot Does Voting Machine Post Mortem</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Slashdot collates <a href="http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04%2F11%2F08%2F1910250">allegations of voting machine error and/or fraud</a>.  Interesting stuff, but politically going nowhere.</p>]]>
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<title>Vote Suppression, GOP Style</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Of course the <span class="caps">GOP </span>didn&#8217;t want UM students to vote.  And they made it as hard as possible.  But the students out-waited them.  </p>

<blockquote><p><a title="e-Veritas, 11-04-04" href="http://www.miami.edu/news/everitas/2004-05/11-04-04.htm">e-Veritas, 11-04-04</a>&#8212;Students turned out by the hundreds on Tuesday to vote at the new campus precinct at the UM Convocation Center. The turnout apparently caught the Miami-Dade Elections Department unprepared, despite the fact that their rolls reflected that students had registered in record numbers for this election. Nevertheless, the intrepid students and area neighbors maintained their good humor and endured wait times of up to five hours &#8212; sustained by dozens of pizzas and crates of bottled water provided by the University. The total number of voters exceeded 1,000, and there were as many as 300 people in line at any given time. University staff and student leaders provided support and helped maintain order, and the last voters finally cast their ballots just after midnight.</p>

<p>On Wednesday, President Donna E. Shalala praised students for their &#8220;passionate commitment to our democracy.&#8221; She subsequently filed a formal complaint with the Elections Department citing &#8220;woefully inadequate provision of voting equipment and knowledgeable staffing,&#8221; as well as the department&#8217;s &#8220;lack of flexibility and inability to adjust to what were extraordinary lines during the course of the day.&#8221; The president also requested that the elections supervisor come to campus to meet with student leaders and assure them of adequate preparation for the next election.</p></blockquote>

<p>Once again Shalala seizes the moment &#8212; feeding and watering the students was a wonderful move.   </p>]]>
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<title>Tinfoil or For Real?</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200411/msg00046.html">A scary item</a> (is it true?) submitted to Dave Farber&#8217;s Interesting People mailing list by one  Ken Deifik:</p>

<blockquote><p> It occurs to me that one of the questions that could be answered without too much trouble, at least for someone with lots of access to data and a knowlege of statistics, would be: is there any difference in the Bush - Kerry percentages in precincts that used eVoting, especially Diebold but all eVoting machines, as opposed to those that used paper ballots or some other method of voting.&nbsp; If this question has any meaning for you, I&#8217;d ask you to pose to the list, to see anyone with the proper skills and access could carry out such a study.</p>

<p>I hope in the next few days statisticians examine the issue of the exit polls.&nbsp; Since the early 70&#8217;s the exit polls have always been spot on.&nbsp; I feel ashamed for any journalist who says the exit polls got it wrong in <span class="caps">FLA </span>in 2000, because it is clear they got it right.</p>

<p>I have to wonder how John Zogby, who predicted 312 electoral votes for Kerry at 5PM <span class="caps">EST</span> 11/2, could have gotten the exit polls so wrong.&nbsp; Or really if he did.</p></blockquote>

<p> One reason may be who votes at what time of day?</p>

<blockquote><p>I just found this posting in the Democratic Underground site<br /><tt> &#8230;on several swing states, and <span class="caps">EVERY STATE </span>that has EVoting but no paper trails has an unexplained advantage for Bush of around +5% when comparing exit polls to actual results.</p>

<p>In <span class="caps">EVERY STATE </span>that has paper audit trails on their EVoting, the exit poll results match the actual results reported within the margin of error.</tt></p>

<p>So we have <span class="caps">MATCHING RESULTS </span>for exit polls vs. voting with audits<br /> vs.<br />A 5% unexplained advantage for Bush without audits.</p></blockquote>

<p>Say it ain&#8217;t so&#8230;</p>]]>
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<title>Avi Rubin, Cryptographer, On His Day as an Election Judge</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Avi Rubin blogs <a title="My day as an election judge - take 2" href="http://avirubin.com/judge2.html">My day as an election judge - take 2</a>.  Everything looks like it works, but the system has vulnerabilities&#8230;and the worst ones are not ones you could detect&#8230;.</p>]]>
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<title>Kerry, Castor Concede</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I think we are in for a rough time.  </p>

<p>Will people abroad want to hold dollars if the people running the country have a track record of deficits and talking down the dollar?  </p>

<p>Will the weakened Senate Democrats have the guts to filibuster extreme Supreme Court nominees?</p>

<p>Will a more right-wing court stand up to this administration&#8217;s propensity for torture and arbitrary detention?</p>

<p>What will happen to global warming and environmental quality generally?</p>

<p>I would be delighted to be wrong, but I think that all but one of these questions are going to have really lousy answers, as will many others.</p>]]>
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